RIP Philo

1st successful astronaut survival of exploding rocket

US Apollo program had a Launch Escape System that could pull the crew module away from the rocket in the case where the rocket blew up. It never had to be used.

Soyuz has something similar. They used it for the first time in history today, saving a cosmonaut and an astronaut when the rocket blew up (probably sabotage given last month's sabotage) following launch.
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
October 11th, 2018 5:15am
And by today I mean an hour ago. They have not even gotten to the soyuz module, but it landed in the wilderness after the rocket blew up a few minutes ago and they've confirmed via radio the crew members are not dead.
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
October 11th, 2018 5:18am
Not an explosion.

Launch was 90 minutes ago. Seems like the 3rd stage engines did not ignite, well after launch, leaving them incapable of achieving orbit. So they initiated capsule separation and descended to Whereversville.

They've gotten out of the capsule and have unpacked, for the first time, the bear gun that Soyuz famously has carried for decades to handle this scenario.
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
October 11th, 2018 5:23am
This shows the current design and the typical flight path from the launch center.

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-fg.html

You can see from where the third stage ignites that they are now either in far eastern Kazakhstan, or possibly even Altai or Tuva.
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October 11th, 2018 5:29am
Knowledgable experts say this will be the end of manned spaceflight for some time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1050318472859840512
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
October 11th, 2018 5:33am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TP-82
Permalink WikiBot 
October 11th, 2018 5:35am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWqrYgOKdBs
Permalink YouTubeBot 
October 11th, 2018 5:37am
My analysis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8d9CqS2cvc

3h04m22s ignition
3h04m33s liftoff
3h06m30s failure

Before the failure there's a lot of chatter in Russian.

So about 2m08s into flight starts the descent.
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
October 11th, 2018 5:41am
Hm, so they started retiring the bear gun in 2007 and are only using a semiautomatic pistol now. Pity!
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
October 11th, 2018 5:42am
Recovery team reached them a half hour ago, they were already outside the capsule. They're getting ready to take them back.

This is obviously sabotage.

And there's only one suspect - who has everything to gain by killing off the Soyuz program while astronauts are on the ISS, creating in their mind pressure to quickly certify some other option? Someone would have to be known to have disregard for human life, be a megalomaniac, mentally ill, and have connections throughout the space industry allowing them to bribe someone at the plants that makes the rockets and capsules, where we already have seen sabotage taking place.

Hm, who fits that description?

That's what's going on here.
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
October 11th, 2018 5:54am
OK so the translators are on the case. They discuss successful first stage separation. Then a bit later he says "Booster failure." So it seems it was the second stage that didn't ignite, not the third stage.
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
October 11th, 2018 6:06am
This channel has a Russian translator's feed.

https://youtu.be/c0l5QBmqQoI?t=261
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
October 11th, 2018 6:08am
It's interesting since it has a pregenerated computer animation that you assume is somehow representing the current state of the rocket, yet it's complete bullshit, the entire thing was prerendered. Also an american woman's voice is faked in advance and is just rolling without awareness of what is going on.

In the background is the actual live feed, you can listen to the translator in real time who is clearly more panicked than the crew members who are just initiating well learned emergency maneuvers for exactly this failure mode.
Permalink McCain's Tumor 
October 11th, 2018 6:11am
I wonder the Russian wants to make another 81 mil. That is what it costs to send an astronaut on their Soyuz. Oooops, it didn't work. We have to relaunch. Please send us another check.
Permalink DrPepper 
October 11th, 2018 8:09am
They didn't use the escape rocket - it had already detached.  They did a gravity assisted return, which means "fell to earth"
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October 11th, 2018 8:39am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGnYACfZac

Live from NASA control room following Soyuz MS-1 with audio English translation.
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October 11th, 2018 8:39am