1. I accept that I am under the control of a higher power (Muppet).

What's up with my new co-worker?  Does he have a hidden agenda?

I know some of you are disgusted with my threads but it's one thing after another.

We have a newcomer in the department.

The boss passed around this guy's resume at a meeting a couple weeks ago and his resume was nothing but Project Manager experience with several gaps between jobs.

I met the guy today and was showing him around and he was not asking too many questions about the job itself. He was asking questions like this:

He asked about the guy that he replaced and asked me why he left, how long he was with the company, why he left, where he is working now, where he moved to (after I told him he moved and then found a job close to home), etc.

This guy has a Bachelors and an MBA. I think he about shit his pants when I told him that the boss's boss was taking classes and then I told him the guy is going for a Bachelor's degree when he asked if he was going for a Master's.  He didn't say anything but his eyes glazed over.

He asked how I feel about the size of our department now vs. when it was larger after I told him it was downsized years ago.

He asked how long our supervisor has been with the company and where he lives. He asked how long he was with the group and if he was promoted or if he applied for his job.

He was asking me how long I've worked there (which is a reasonable question) and then he followed up by asking where I want to take my career.  The first question he asked after we met was "Where did you work before"

He was talking about his MBA experience and spent a few minutes talking that up.

He asked me about my education and recommended going back for the MBA since the company has tuition reimbursement. Nobody told him that the company doesn't really value education as most of the bosses we've had have not even had a Bachelors let alone a Masters degree.

He asked how many Managers and Directors we've had since I've been there and how long they typically stay.

This is a grunt job that he accepted but his technical ability doesn't seem to be all that. His idea of software troubleshooting is running defrag.

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Seems like a personable guy and all but asked a bunch of odd questions for a guy on his first day on the job.

What's the guy's deal? Merely curious or does he have an agenda?

I'm thinking he's either 1) Already plotting for the Director's job, or 2) He's a recruiter and recruiting on the side.  I've never been hit with so many questions like this from a newcomer on their first day OTJ.
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January 9th, 2018 12:10am
He sounds a lot more office politics savvy than you Dot, you can learn a few things from this guy.
Permalink Zaq 
January 9th, 2018 12:35am
+1 much more savvy than you.  He'll be moving on in no time.  He already knows he's f*cked up.
Permalink D'oh 
January 9th, 2018 12:46am
Of course, he has about 20 years of Project Management experience under his belt, at least that's what he claims.
Permalink . 
January 9th, 2018 12:50am
> He'll be moving on in no time.  He already knows he's f*cked up.

LOL

So basically our management bullshitted him into taking the job, he fell for it, and I inadvertently smartened him up?

The guy that this guy replaced came in acting like he was going to change everything.  He eventually pissed off management after running his mouth a few too many times.  He ended up quitting, didn't even last a year, and the bosses say they're glad he's gone.

Why would the bosses hire someone that is a possible threat to their jobs?  Believe it or not, my boss did not even know if this guy was working at the time he interviewed him.  I guess he left it up to HR to check and verify employment.  Sounds like both sides sold each other a bill of goods.
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January 9th, 2018 12:55am
Can't fall victim to a hidden agenda if you kill yourself first!
Permalink MS 
January 9th, 2018 1:55am
>> Can't fall victim to a hidden agenda if you kill yourself first!

Nice try but you gotta be more subtle. Reformulated, with much higher chances of getting the idiot to commit and provide entertainment for COT:

Can't fall victim to a hidden agenda if you RESIGN first!
Permalink Io 
January 9th, 2018 2:04am
Good stuff
Defrag solid.
Permalink Q 
January 9th, 2018 6:10am
Sounds like he's only worked at big companies. Where politics is more important than skillz.
Permalink Send private email xampl9 
January 9th, 2018 6:54am
If you have tuition reimbursement for education, you need to be taking advantage of it.
Permalink Pie 
January 9th, 2018 7:20am
Be nice to him and be his buddy. He may take you with him when he leaves for better job.
Permalink AlFranken 
January 9th, 2018 9:25am
xampl, I think he's worked mostly as a contractor.
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January 9th, 2018 10:14am
> If you have tuition reimbursement for education, you need to be taking advantage of it.

Want to know why I never did?  Most of my bosses had less education if not the same.  Since tuition reimbursement required their approval, I figure they would not like someone more educated working under them.  BTW you know how many MBA threads have been posted here and people say it's a waste of time?
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January 9th, 2018 10:16am
Your new co-worker sounds like he's trying to justify wasting his life getting an MBA.
Permalink Wabi-sabi 
January 9th, 2018 11:19am
> Your new co-worker sounds like he's trying to justify wasting his life getting an MBA.

LOL

He actually said he's thinking about going back to get ANOTHER MBA at a different university as they offer different classes than the university in which he earned his first MBA.
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January 9th, 2018 11:35am
Were they looking for a project manager?  If yes, they made the right hire.

Were they trying to hire a technical hands-on contributor?  If yes, they are idiots, and (as we repeatedly said) you should find a new job.
Permalink FSK 
January 9th, 2018 6:43pm
> Were they looking for a project manager?  If yes, they made the right hire.

I don't know if they know what the hell they're looking for tbh.  But to answer your question, no.  We have almost as many people in management as we do grunts in the department and definitely do not need another manager type. 

> Were they trying to hire a technical hands-on contributor?  If yes, they are idiots, and (as we repeatedly said) you should find a new job.

Yes the position is for a technical hands-on contributor...unless both bosses plan to leave and they already told their bosses who told them to find someone that can replace them.  I doubt that happened though.  The management there doesn't usually like to plan ahead.
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January 9th, 2018 11:18pm
Why pick MBA? Pick something that makes you feel alive. They're willing to pay for it.

How about social worker? That's what you seem to be doing. So pick some classes on psychology and sociology.
Permalink Pie 
January 10th, 2018 7:19am
> Why pick MBA? Pick something that makes you feel alive. They're willing to pay for it.

It has to be job related in order for the company to pay.

> How about social worker? That's what you seem to be doing. So pick some classes on psychology and sociology.

Heh, sometimes I feel like a social worker dealing with all of the political bullshit around me.  I do have an interest in psychology and sociology.
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January 10th, 2018 9:13am

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