Give ne back my hat!

Ever just walk out of an interview?

Or abruptly end a phone screen?

I did just a few minutes ago and it felt great.
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 4:19pm
It would seem that experience from more than 2 or 3 years ago is worthless and that everyone has just now discovered clustered computing (eg. "The Cloud").
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 4:21pm
Welcome to IT!
Permalink Zaq 
December 6th, 2017 4:22pm
Data Science is worthless?
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 6th, 2017 4:26pm
"Welcome to IT!"

Nah, it's nothing new for me, it's just that my tolerance threshold is lower now...
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 4:30pm
Perhaps on a better day I would have gone through the motions but somehow I ended up getting referred for a role that didn't fit what I was looking for... I thought maybe I'll just see if I can learn more but they just start drilling me with typical screening questions instead of trying to learn more about me. Guess I'm not in the mood today.
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 4:33pm
That's fine, NPR. The economy is hot and you will find other jobs. They need workers to make money.
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 6th, 2017 4:34pm
Have you been doing weekly option trading? What's your result?
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 6th, 2017 4:34pm
I did request a Level 3 from Schwab so I can sell puts but couldn't get it for some reason.

I haven't done any options trading, including writing calls. I feel like my time and money is better spent on real estate.

I did take a flyer on some shares in Tencent Holdings, but that's the only stock I own. It does have some amazing potential.
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 4:37pm
You may want to open an account at Etrade. It is easier to get option trading with them. They do require you to have some experience (some time like one year or more doing option trading) before granting you naked put option trading.
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 6th, 2017 4:39pm
Never did that but I love guys who do! More story NPR please.

I've had some horrific interviews. I see them to the end just so I can mock them in great detail later to friends.
Permalink Reality Check 
December 6th, 2017 4:42pm
Synthetic short puts are fine, they have the same risk/reward profile as naked puts, just can't use leverage.
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 4:43pm
> Synthetic short puts are fine,

What is that?
Permalink X 
December 6th, 2017 4:44pm
I can leverage up to 4X.
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 6th, 2017 4:46pm
Combination of a long stock and short call (eg. selling covered calls).

http://www.theoptionsguide.com/synthetic-short-put.aspx
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 4:47pm
"Never did that but I love guys who do! More story NPR please. "

Not much to tell. I got tired of answering questions from 20-something year old's who think what they're doing is somehow new and important. Figured when the guy said "You don't have much cloud experience do you?" or "You don't have experience with many databases do you?" he either didn't read my resume or just completely discounted everything I've ever done in my career. Seemed like a good idea to cut my losses and do something less unpleasant.
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 4:54pm
I would turn the question back to them and ask the benefits of using multiple DB systems at one company. lol

Then I also turn the question back to him on what happened when Amazon AWS had two big outages.
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 6th, 2017 4:58pm
Basically, these are code monkeys just got promoted or assigned the interviewing task.
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 6th, 2017 5:00pm
Heh. Good point.
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 5:00pm
He asked if I'd ever setup a clustered MySql database.

I said, yeah, back in the day I setup a 2-node Linux HA cluster running MySql and using DRBD for block replication and Heartbeat for failover detection. We needed high availability and redundancy for a missing-critical application at a hospital. Not to power a fucking little shopping website.

He's probably surprised there was redundancy before AWS, lol.
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 5:04pm
He didn’t like that answer? Solid experience
Permalink X 
December 6th, 2017 5:15pm
AWS isn't redundant.  We had a master/slave setup and it kept failing.  (The slave desynced or fell behind master.)  We never could figure out why.  We just switched to one node and doubled the size.

I've walked out of interviews when it was obvious the interviewer was a total asshole.
Permalink FSK 
December 6th, 2017 6:04pm
> AWS isn't redundant.  We had a master/slave setup and it kept failing.

Just because you couldn't make it work...
Permalink X 
December 6th, 2017 6:16pm
We couldn't make it work.  We called AWS tech support and they couldn't figure it out either.  (When you spend enough $$$ on AWS per month, you get a certain number of hours tech support.)

I checked our code, noplace where it was incorrectly writing to the slave.
Permalink FSK 
December 6th, 2017 6:24pm
> Ever just walk out of an interview?

No, but I've been on the interview team and wishing we had arranged for a signal to end it early.

This was for the "my knowledge is a linked-list" guy.  We'd ask him a question, there would be a 20-30 second pause, and he'd say "I don't know." 

We figured he was tracing through everything he did know, and only when he got a nil pointer did he say he didn't know.
Permalink Send private email xampl9 
December 6th, 2017 8:26pm
>I said, yeah, back in the day I setup a 2-node Linux HA cluster running MySql and using DRBD for block replication and Heartbeat for failover detection. We needed high availability and redundancy for a missing-critical application at a hospital. Not to power a fucking little shopping website.

How come you didn't use MySQL's SQL-level replication?
Permalink Wabi-sabi 
December 6th, 2017 8:56pm
I don't think it existed at the time. Anyways, it was the CTO's choice, not mine.
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 8:59pm
The SQL level replication in MySQL is at least ... 17 years old?

Fuck that makes me feel old.
Permalink Wabi-sabi 
December 6th, 2017 9:08pm
Really? This was 2005-2006. Perhaps it was that we needed the data itself replicated (for files not in the db). I don't remember there being a viable alternative to Linux HA, but maybe there was.

You know what's weird? 1999 was the year Linux HA was created. At that time, 1999 seemed like an eternity ago even though it was only seven years prior. Now, 2006 is more than 11 years ago. Time is going by faster and faster.
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 9:28pm
Yeah, made me feel old, too.
Permalink NPR 
December 6th, 2017 9:34pm
Yep, a recruiter paired me to the wrong company and interviewer. As soon as he started I said whoaa, this is completely the wrong job description, we checked the job ad and it was clear the recruiter had confused some acronym on the job description. We both agreed not to waste each other's time and I left immeditately.
Permalink Bluebeard 
December 6th, 2017 10:01pm
>Time is going by faster and faster.

Passage of time accelerates. Whether it's constant acceleration or exponentially increasing is one for the applied cognition analysts but I aver that events plot along a straight log-linear line.

Or something. Have another beer.
Permalink tablet trollop 
December 7th, 2017 8:05am
Time is measured by experience.

When you are 1 year old, another year is 100%.
When you are 10, 1 year is only 10%
When you are 50, it's 2%

Combine that with most people exposing themselves to fewer new experiences as they age - physical disability, risk aversion, less opportunity.

Yeah, by your 50s you're fucked.
Permalink Grumpy Old Git 
December 7th, 2017 8:18am
You forget like 99% of your lived experience though so THAT BLOWS UP THAT CALCULATION
Permalink Wabi-sabi 
December 7th, 2017 12:38pm
Does it?

When you are 1 year old, another year is 100%.

If you forgot 99% of that first year, you remember 3 and half days. In the new year, you remember 3 and half days. That's 100%
Permalink Q 
December 7th, 2017 1:47pm
CAPITALS BECAUSE I’M BEYOND DISCUSSING IT. I’M LOUD AND THAT MAKES ME RIGHT
Permalink X 
December 7th, 2017 2:27pm
It varies.  For a few years, it felt like time was passing too fast.  Now it feels like it's moving at a normal rate again.
Permalink FSK 
December 7th, 2017 7:41pm