Give ne back my hat!

The internet is dead?

https://staltz.com/the-web-began-dying-in-2014-heres-how.html
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 12:07pm
What?  What?  I can't hear you!
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
December 5th, 2017 12:08pm
Unfunny people making jokes is hell on earth
Permalink X 
December 5th, 2017 12:15pm
More importantly, Google & Facebook now command 70% of advertising, so EVERYTHING else is dead, it's just inertia keeping it going - newspapers, magazines, TV, Cable, etc.
Permalink Zaq 
December 5th, 2017 12:16pm
Most of the internet sites I visit don't run on advertising.

Advertising is for cheap rubbish for the masses.

Soap has dominated the mass media for a long time, yet I don't find it too difficult to avoid most of it.

The masses are there to be played.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 5th, 2017 12:23pm
Because that's where the money is.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
December 5th, 2017 12:24pm
Money, money, money makes the world go round.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 5th, 2017 12:25pm
In the absence of sane regulation of monopoly properties, it certainly does.

For instance, Virginia just opened a couple of I-66 toll HOV lanes.  The (private industry) company Virginia sold those lanes to promised the tolls would top out at $9.00.  Monday's reality was $35, and Tuesday's high was $40.

Turns out, Virginia didn't place any limit on how high the tolls could go.  "We can trust private industry", they thought to themselves.  So now the tolls have gone high.  And there's nothing to stop them going higher.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
December 5th, 2017 12:29pm
Why didn't VA build the toll lanes themselves instead of outsourcing out to private industry? Oh, did they say they don't have money? However, welfare and other social programs are funded. Why don't they take that money and build the toll lanes? Then use the money from toll to pay for social programs?
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 12:41pm
Because every Republican knows Free-Market solutions are superior to Government solutions, at all times and in all cases.

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

Besides, they'd already cut their taxes so the state couldn't afford to do new roads.  The Republican state government wouldn't allow it.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
December 5th, 2017 12:43pm
Hubble, you left out the details:

The tolls are dynamic and the pricing changes every six minutes, based on the demand and volume of traffic along the road. The goal is to keep a traffic flowing at 55 mph. During Monday and Tuesday’s commutes, the speeds stayed consistent at 57 mph, state officials said.  This saved motorists travel time and enabled  commuter buses to run on-time, Layne said at a Tuesday morning meeting of the Commonwealth Transportation Board.

“As long as people are willing to pay, that is what will drive the tolling,” Layne said. Those complaining that the tolls are unfair have options, he said.
“No one has to pay a toll. You simply could have put another person in your car and avoid a toll,” Layne said. “This is fair to everyone because everyone has a choice. And that is why we did this. We wanted to change behavior, we don’t have the resources to continue to lay asphalt and have congested roadways.”
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 12:44pm
If you have two or more people in the car or you ride a motorcycle you don't pay toll.

Hello Hubble!
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 12:46pm
Yup, that's the Republican explanation.  From the Republican play-book.

And you BELIEVE them?
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
December 5th, 2017 12:46pm
When in NL such public tasks are exploited by commercial companies, the consumer conditions are fixed (price, service level) and companies put forward offers, where the cheapest offer is accepted.

Public transport is organised this way, because it needs support money.

Profitable transport, such as air travel or holiday tours, can operate without such arrangements.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 5th, 2017 12:46pm
Yeah, if I drive with another person I don't pay toll. If I drive alone, I go different route.
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 12:47pm
In other words: "Well, yes, we thought the top price would be $9.00, but if there's people who WANT to pay $40, why should we stop them?"

His arguments kept pivoting around "People should be able to do what they WANT to do", and avoiding the "Nobody WANTS to spend $40 for a 10 mile trip."  For a Republican, it's all about giving people freedom of choice to be screwed.  If they CHOOSE to be screwed, well that's Freedom Of Choice which is sacred.

Despite the fact that they've made it MUCH more difficult to avoid being screwed.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
December 5th, 2017 12:49pm
And those exploitation contracts are up for new offers every five years.

The infrastructure is split from the exploitation, in order to separate long term and short term investments.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 5th, 2017 12:49pm
These are public structures, so politicians should decide the conditions, not commercial enterprises.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
December 5th, 2017 12:51pm
Don't worry, Hubble. I only drive to your place for a free beer and I don't pay toll on the Beltway. You are not charging me for the free beer right?
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 12:54pm
Don't worry, Hubble. I only drive to your place for a free beer and I don't pay toll on the Beltway. You are not charging me for the free beer right?
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 12:54pm
Don't worry, Hubble. I only drive to your place for a free beer and I don't pay toll on the Beltway. You are not charging me for the free beer right?
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 12:54pm
Damn, something is wrong with my keyboard...
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 12:55pm
> Virginia didn't place any limit on how high the tolls could go.  "We can trust private industry", they thought to themselves.  So now the tolls have gone high.  And there's nothing to stop them going higher.

You are right about this.

How is it that you can see the problem here, but you are not able to see that the exact same thing happened with the insurance mandate?
Permalink Reality Check 
December 5th, 2017 1:44pm
"Why didn't VA build the toll lanes themselves instead of outsourcing out to private industry?"

VA did build the lanes. The government seized the land for the highway, and paid for it with taxpayer money. Then paid to build the highway with taxpayer money. Then handed over some of it to private companies to profit from as they see fit, with no restrictions.
Permalink Reality Check 
December 5th, 2017 1:48pm
I'm guessing someone got a nice payoff for that.
Permalink Zaq 
December 5th, 2017 1:53pm
The last gov of VA is a Democrat. The current one is a Democrat. It's time for VA revolution and imprisonment of all Democrats.
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 1:54pm
"You guys decide if Hubble is telling the truth."

Yes he is. His account of the system matches the description.
Permalink Reality Check 
December 5th, 2017 1:54pm
Do you remember this guy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_McAuliffe
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 1:55pm
Previous system:

- Alternative fuel low emissions cars and carpools can use the taxpayer paid for and government built HOV express lane for free. Others can not. Taxpayers paid for the HOV lane with the understanding it would encourage carpooling.

- HOV lane is normal lane outside rush hour.

New system:

- Private company is gifted control over the lanes, and gets to collect money, while not having to pay for shit.

- State enforces the payments with civil and criminal penalties, at no cost to the private company.

- Alternative fuel low emissions cars no longer can use the lanes except as normal cars do, with a carpool.

- Lane is HOV mode 3 additional hours outside rush hour in the morning and evening, for a total of 6 more hrs a day, encompassing all hours you would be likely to drive, including a lot with little congestion.

- Rich people can use the HOV lane as they see fit, as long as they pay exorbitant fees.

- HOV cars are NO LONGER allowed to use the lanes without paying both the fees and exorbitant fines for failure to have their car tracked at all times using a "EZ Pass Transponder". EZ Pass Transponders will be available to rich people to buy from the private company. Those who refuse to buy them or are unaware they exist will be sent bills in the mail for traffic violations using the HOV lane EVEN THOUGH they have 2 or more people in the car.
Permalink Reality Check 
December 5th, 2017 2:00pm
Publicly built taxpayer paid for carpool lane is gifted to a private company and converted into a fast lane for rich people plus a massive fine collection system for normal carpool users.
Permalink Reality Check 
December 5th, 2017 2:02pm
RC, all you need to do is to become rich. Get to it, my friend. Brice drives Mercedes-Benz SLK. What's your problem? You can't match Brice?
Permalink BibimbapClinton 
December 5th, 2017 2:15pm

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