Give ne back my hat!

Long time COTer looking for work.

Long time COTer, mostly a lurker( provable) and Canadian citizen. Looking for work in States, willing to relocate. Email on profile.
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November 14th, 2017 6:20pm
Are you currently legally eligible to work in the US. ie, no sponsorship.

What is your experience, field, and skill set?
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November 14th, 2017 6:45pm
>Are you currently legally eligible to work in the US. ie, no sponsorship.

Kind of. The employer has to give me an appropriately worded appointment letter ( + other simpler documents)  which I have to present at the border to get a work permit. I already have a work permit with my  current US employer in the US but will need another work permit if I switch employers. I'm willing to go C2C if the employer does not want to deal with this hazel.

>What is your experience, field, and skill set?

Java, Webservices, Tomcat, Weblogic, Oracle  - mostly back end java work but also quite familiar with front end stuff like html, Jquery and Javascript but not an expert. Have got the usual buzzwordy stuff like SOAP, REST, JSON etc.
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November 14th, 2017 7:14pm
> experience, field
Tele-communications, Healthcare, Travel/holiday industries.
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November 14th, 2017 7:16pm
hazel?
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November 14th, 2017 8:04pm
hassle
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November 15th, 2017 1:31am
Thanks CES.
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November 15th, 2017 10:05am
So you are not US citizen or legal immigrant?
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November 15th, 2017 10:52am
That's the question people will have.

OP, I'm sure everyone in tech in Canada knows and constantly thinks about all the nuances of immigration to the great US of A, but we down here don't know anything about that other than it's probably a huge hassle involving visa quotas, paperwork, bureaucracy and lotteries that is so complicated only big companies with teams of immigration lawyers can do it and they grab all the slots before anyone has a chance.

If that is NOT the case for Canada, you gotta lay out the exact process. Like maybe NAFTA says Canadians can work in the US same as Polish can work in Britain? Something like that? If that program exists I've never heard of it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it does.

We lazy americans are not going to look this up. You need to make real clear exactly what the deal is if it's not H1B which is a big fat no-burger.
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November 15th, 2017 11:26am
NAFTA allows Mexican and Canadian high tech workers into the US. However, it is very rare in this case. I haven't met many (about 1 in my case) from Canada and zero from Mexico.
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November 15th, 2017 12:27pm
H1B people from India are running over the US. It is backdoor immigration.
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November 15th, 2017 12:28pm
OP disappeared and doesn't produce needed info when directly requested.

I would not hire OP because if this is how he is when he wants a job, it'll be a lot worse when he gets it.

Anyway, for other people, I looked this up. Keyword is TN Visa.

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/employment/nafta.html

A contract or letter of employment in the United States - To show that you have a job offer, provide a contract or employment letter from your employer in the United States confirming your upcoming employment in one of the professional occupations listed in Appendix 1306.d.1 of NAFTA Chapter 16. The letter should also include:
Your purpose of entry;
A detailed description of your anticipated business activities or job responsibilities;
Your anticipated length of stay in the United States;
Your educational qualifications or appropriate credentials demonstrating professional status;
Evidence of your compliance with Department of Homeland Security (DHS) regulations and/or state laws; and
Arrangements for your pay.

Problem I have with this is the employer has to provide a letter with this info, not the non-migrant. (This is a non-migrant visa, apparently you don't qualify for residency. Not clear if you can even rent or open a bank account or get a drivers license on these visas.) That's a lot of work to do for some random guy.

More importantly though I want to know if I can work in Canada on this same visa, or if it's not reciprocal.

I am formally announcing I want a Canadian firm to make me a job offer. I have lots of leet skills and a relevant degree or two.
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November 15th, 2017 1:30pm
https://www.canadavisa.com/nafta-work-permits.html
https://www.canadavisa.com/nafta-professionals.html

The only computer tech category you can go in is "Computer Systems Analyst". Software Engineers, etc, tough luck.
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November 15th, 2017 1:33pm
https://www.canadianimmigration.com/working-in-canada/nafta-work-permit/professional/

"NAFTA Professional work permits are only for individuals entering the Canadian labour market temporarily, and their work permits cannot be longer than 3 years in duration."

Similar for US. So if you hire a Canadian, they have to leave after 3 years?

No...

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/work/international/nafta.asp

> Extensions can also be issued in increments of up to three years with no limit on the number of extensions providing the individual continues to comply with the requirements for professionals.

> Officers must be satisfied that the employment is still “temporary” and that the applicant is not using NAFTA entry as a means of circumventing normal immigration procedures.
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November 15th, 2017 1:37pm
This is interesting though. There are a lot of good programmers in Mexico. Have they not heard of this program? Just have to claim they are an "analyst" I guess.
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November 15th, 2017 1:38pm
Spouses and dependents get to come with you!

And the spouse gets an open ended work visa with which she can apply for any job, even non-nafta ones.
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November 15th, 2017 1:40pm
List of jobs is the same for all three countries. The "NAFTA List".
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November 15th, 2017 1:42pm
>So you are not US citizen or legal immigrant?

No, I'm not a US citizen, neither am I a legal immigrant. I'm on what is called a TN work permit. This is related to NAFTA - North American Free Trade Agreement). Note that if an American wants to work in Canada a similar TN permit is available.

>but we down here don't know anything about that other than it's probably a huge hassle involving visa quotas, paperwork, bureaucracy and lotteries that is so complicated only big companies with teams of immigration lawyers can do it and they grab all the slots before anyone has a chance.

Well, for me as a Canadian, it certainly is a lot more simpler. It actually primarily involves a correctly worded appointment letter which is presented at the border. There is no application form and other complexities. The fees is $56.
What is indeed complicated is to become a legal immigrant which is what I plan to do, my current employer has not done it yet because of red tape withing the organisation. But there are a gazillion tiny agencies that generally do it for you if you are on their payroll and you do a C2C.
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November 15th, 2017 8:42pm
Just say you're an underage Muslim refugee in fear of your life from that bigoted racist Trump and you'll be fine.
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November 16th, 2017 12:52am

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