Y'all are a bunch of wankers!


> In addition, security staffers failed to notify police when Mandalay Bay maintenance engineer Stephen Schuck told them that he, too, was being fired at.

“Call the police, someone is firing a gun up here. Someone is firing a rifle on the 32nd floor down the hallway,” Schuck can be heard saying on audio tapes released Wednesday by the hotel.

The engineer reportedly radioed his employer, letting them know what happened and what room Paddock was in, after being asked by the hotel to do so. Yet, nobody did anything.

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October 11th, 2017 11:23pm
That little detail is the key justification for lawsuits being launched against the hotel by survivors and the estates of the dead.


MGM owns both the concert venue, which didn't have proper exits and was a fish barrel, and the hotel as well.

They also have DEEEEEP pockets.
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October 12th, 2017 7:43am
Also notice new time line.

Old timeline:

Shooter shoots crowd for several minutes. Hotel sends security guard to find him, he does, and is shot through the door. The shooter then kills himself.

New timeline:

Campos was shot through the door at 9:59 p.m., the first shot fired. The gunman fires his first shot at the crowd 6 minutes later, at 10:05 p.m.
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October 12th, 2017 7:47am
Anyway it's become clear that how this started is that the hotel sent guys up to his room. These guys confronted him about something and he shot them. The guys radioed the hotel to say they'd been shot and the hotel, knowing perfectly well whatever it was they went to confront him about, decided not to contact police or provide any help to the shot guy, but instead have a conversation about what to do next.

Not calling the police and this behavior of not helping their shot employee means that the hotel was up to no good here. They have obviously been completely non-forthcoming about what actually happened that started all this.

This makes the hotel management guilty of obstruction of justice, interfering with an investigation, and perjury, but probably sets them up as actual co-conspirators with the gunman.
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October 12th, 2017 8:08am
Were these guys muscle sent to talk to him about gambling debts?
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October 12th, 2017 8:09am
Who else was there in the hallway? It obviously wasn't this one guy only by himself.

Prosecutors need to be hot-lamping 100% of the hotel staff and management and get one of them to flip.

What was on the missing video recordings? Shooter had cameras everywhere but by the time police arrive someone removed the SD cards.
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October 12th, 2017 8:11am
I just remembered that previously the police claimed that they were with Campos when he got shot. Police said they arrived at the hotel looking for the shooter and Campos was the hotel employee with a key who was helping them by taking them from floor to floor and room to room. When they arrived at the shooter's room, the shooter shot Campos through the door. Police then decided to wait for SWAT backup before proceeding, and at this point waited 1 hr.

That was the police's story.

Now we find out that the police team is in the hallway with Campos 10 minutes before the shooting begins and they stand outside the room doing nothing, Campos on the ground bleeding, while the shooter does the shooting for 12 minutes and the police stand outside his door listening, not calling anyone, standing there.

Obviously police are now seen to be lying and complicit in something.

The 1 hr seems to be the time they needed to stage the scene and make it look like this random weirdo guy was the shooter. He probably wasn't even checked into that room at all.
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October 12th, 2017 8:27am
Hotel maintenance worker Stephen Schuck received a report that someone had jammed open the fire door on the 32nd floor, allowing people outside the hotel to come in and out without having to pass through the lobby.

He arrived on the 32nd floor to check into it when he heard gunshots.

At that point Campos, peeked out from where he was hiding in an alcove and told Schuck to take cover.

Rounds started coming down the hallway, and as he felt the air swoosh as bullets went past his head and hit the wall behind him, he realized that the shots he heard were gunmen in the hallway shooting directly at him - he was the target.

He ducked for cover and then called hotel management on the radio to inform them. During a lull in the shooting at him, he and Campos retreated together down the hallway. The shooting at them by the gunmen started again.

Hotel did not contact police about the report or send anyone.

Six minutes LATER, the first shooting against the concert crowd began. Six minutes after THAT, police claim that they arrived at the door to the hotel with Campos who was shot. One hour after that, police claim they knocked down the door and found a suicided gunman.