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Star Trek Discovery Ep 3

Previously I noted this series was absolute garbage, the worst Star Trek ever. Hated it with a passion.

Turns out episode 1 and 2 are complete throw aways, a prelude that took place years ago.

The actual series is about something totally different, though retains two characters from the prelude.

Instead of being about the top most respected captain Kirk/Picard/Archer in Starfleet's flagship Enterprise, this show's hero is Starfleet's most hated and despised person in all of their history, a person whom everyone wishes was dead, and is filled with disgust at the mere sight of.

The ship is a secret Starfleet-CIA ship, run by a sadist and psychopath, doing horrific experiments, committing abominable war crimes, and doing experiments in violation of two different Geneva Conventions. Starfleet in this series will be the Third Reich, run by Nazis. The Klingons will be the noble warriors who play by the rules. And the hated protagonist will be one of the only people that sees the truth.
Permalink Reality Check 
October 6th, 2017 11:59am
I'll probably wait till the first season is over to see if I'm going to bother watching this show. 

On the otherhand, I'm kinda enjoying The Orville.  It's a nice break from all the heavy TV out there.
Permalink Send private email Almost Anonymous 
October 6th, 2017 12:56pm
You can only watch this if you subscribe to paid CBS All Access.  Yet another toll.
Permalink ps 
October 6th, 2017 1:39pm
Or you could just torrent it.
Permalink MS 
October 6th, 2017 2:10pm
Star trek next generation season one really sucked.  I stopped watching after about 4 episodes.

Years later I saw something from a later season. It was really good, so I went back to watch it all.


So even if disovery season one sucks, there is some hope.
Permalink Legion 
October 6th, 2017 2:35pm
Yeah I'm totally going to torrent it.  Do these people even know who their market is?
Permalink Send private email Almost Anonymous 
October 6th, 2017 3:53pm
I liked the first two eps.
Permalink Kenny the Robot 
October 6th, 2017 3:54pm
I read that it's the most pirated TV show ever.

I hugely enjoyed Reality Check's accurate summary of this series.

The SJW aspect of the show pisses me off and isn't even correct. First black and first woman starship captains, we had 'em in the 90s, check.

I was hopeful that Burnham would somehow transcend the Wesley Crusher model of the perfect brilliant crew member being all perfecty and shit but by the third season she's back in uniform and the prune faced tall alien who distrusts her is once again blowing roses of admiration up her ass.

I do like that they showed the convicts in the shuttle as the 23rd century version of skanky layabout types. Bad complexions and terrible attitudes... never seen in the federation before. They all needed "product" badly.
Permalink Send private email Bored Bystander 
October 6th, 2017 4:22pm
This show needs to be remade again. This time Caitlyn Jenner should be the ship captain!
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 4:55pm
MS and Hubble should also have a roles in this new show. They will be Caitly Jenner boots lickers.
Permalink Done That 
October 6th, 2017 4:56pm
> I read that it's the most pirated TV show ever.

More than Game of Thrones?  Seems unlikely but still possible.
Permalink Send private email Almost Anonymous 
October 6th, 2017 5:33pm
Universal law is for lackeys. Context is for kings.

Capt. Lorca
Permalink JJ 
October 6th, 2017 7:56pm
>I hugely enjoyed Reality Check's accurate summary of this series.

Well, it was somewhat accurate. Fact is that nobody knows what is going on yet.

>this show's hero is Starfleet's most hated and despised person in all of their history...

I doubt that, but she is supposedly the first person within the Federation to have mutinied.

>The ship is a secret Starfleet-CIA ship, run by a sadist and psychopath, doing horrific experiments, committing abominable war crimes, and doing experiments in violation of two different Geneva Conventions...

The ship is a science vessel. The CIA men on the ship appear to be part of Section 31 which is a secret organization that appeared in earlier Star Trek TV shows. I am not aware of any war crimes that have been committed by the Discovery. The only thing we know so far is what the captain told Michael Burnham at the end of episode 3 which is that both the Discovery and the now destroyed sister ship are experimenting with a new form of space travel.
Permalink One Programmer's Opinion 
October 6th, 2017 8:32pm
Maybe they're going to invent warp drive. Or is that too obvious.
Permalink , Cup 
October 6th, 2017 9:48pm
I tried not to give the obvious spoiler by saying CIA and not Section 31 which is googleable. Yeah, 100% certainly this is Section 31.

Discovery is NOT a science vessel. It's a Section 31 vessel. If this was regular science then it could be on a normal starfleet vessel.

Section 31 is above or separate from all rules and regulations. Their protocols are to neutralize threats and advance the Starfleet agenda at any cost, particularly including mass murder, assassinations, WMDs, and overt genocide using bioweapons against any species considered a threat.

Section 31 has on multiple occasions been shown to be in the possession of a sector and perhaps galaxy wide site to site transwarp instantaneous teleportation device. This device is perhaps shown here for the first time with a description.

But we also see them acquiring and/or developing a bioweapon monster that is particularly adept at slaughtering Klingons.

Black is the color of Section 31. The black insignia was more confirmation.

Given all the clues there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever Discovery is a section 31 ship.
Permalink Reality Check 
October 6th, 2017 10:37pm
>Discovery is NOT a science vessel. It's a Section 31 vessel.

It is probably both. Saru (the prune face 1st officer) acted evasively when Michael said "So this is a science vessel". That said, in the trailer for episode 4, I do remember the captain saying the following "The Discovery is no longer a science vessel it is a warship...".


>Section 31 has on multiple occasions been shown to be in the possession of a sector and perhaps galaxy wide site to site transwarp instantaneous teleportation device.

I am not saying you are wrong, but I never seen such a device being used before on earlier made TV shows (i.e Star Trek: Deep Space Nine or Star Trek: Enterprise). That said, I believe in the movie "Star Trek into Darkness" Khan used some type of teleportation device to beam himself away from Earth and onto a Klingon planet (which is an extremely long distance). Supposedly, this show is not suppose to part of that alternate universe though.
Permalink One Programmer's Opinion 
October 6th, 2017 11:51pm

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