Give ne back my hat!

Should automatic rifles be banned in all cases?

People are not allowed to have automatic rifles without special licenses that are difficult and costly to get. New automatic rifles also can not be sold in the US.

But police are allowed to have them.

Why?

What scenario that police face requires automatic rifles?

There are none.

Automatic rifles are only of use for mass murdering a crowd of people.

This has its uses. For example, it was used at Wounded Knee to quickly slaughter Lakota women and children.

It's also used sometimes in battle by incompetent marksmen.

What use does it have in civilian, including police, space?

You are either a competent marksman, in which case an automatic rifle is useless, or not.

Automatic rifles are ONLY useful for mass murder, whether used by police or non-police.
Permalink Reality Check 
October 5th, 2017 5:42pm
With enough Idiots in the country, the police might have to act against heavily armed civilians.

Automatic weapons are great for suppression during an assault - which is why they are also called assault rifles.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
October 5th, 2017 5:47pm
You describe a "mass murder" scenario by police, which I already acknowledged.

So you agree with my post, correct?
Permalink Reality Check 
October 5th, 2017 5:49pm
The only scenario where police could legitimately need automatic guns is if they're going up against a group of criminals they know are well-armed.

In a typical urban setting, automatic guns are useless by the police.

I see police on the subway and in the World Trade Center carrying automatic guns.  My reaction is "Seriously?  You're going to fire that into a crowd?"  They're probably just for show, to make stupid people feel safer.
Permalink FSK 
October 5th, 2017 6:19pm
AFAIK autos can be set to fire like semi-autos and I hope that's the way they're carried with safety set on.

I know fuck all about this. Maybe it's a 3-way selector between off, snipe and slaughter.

But agree that cops carrying long arms or auto pistols in the city is largely theatre.
Permalink trollop 
October 5th, 2017 8:54pm
A sniper rifle makes sense.  But then they should be standing on a balcony somewhere, not at street level.
Permalink FSK 
October 5th, 2017 9:20pm
Cops should definitely not have assault rifles.
Permalink MS 
October 5th, 2017 9:43pm
"Assault rifle" is a phrase that means "gun I don't like".
Permalink Pie is a lot better than fine 
October 6th, 2017 7:00am
> Cops should definitely not have assault rifles.

Definitely not the NYPD. They can't hit anything but bystanders it seems.

The thing about people wanting common-sense gun control - I have two responses for them.

1. Are you going to compensate me for the tens of thousands of dollars I've spent on my hobby that I can no longer enjoy?

2. Given that it's a right (see: Bill of Rights), what are you willing to give up in return?
Permalink Send private email xampl9 
October 6th, 2017 8:45am
If you're going to allow people to have guns, then I don't see why you can't let them have automatics.  I mean, automatics are going to serve the purpose of the second amendment better than semis.

Rocket launchers, grenades, tanks, AA, etc., should be allowed too.
Permalink Kenny the Robot 
October 6th, 2017 3:57pm
≥The thing about people wanting common-sense gun control - I have two responses for them.

≥1. Are you going to compensate me for the tens of thousands of dollars I've spent on my hobby that I can no longer enjoy?

You are describing a ban. Common sense gun control typically doesn't mean a ban. But to answer your question, when Australia implemented their ban it included a buy back program.

≥2. Given that it's a right (see: Bill of Rights), what are you willing to give up in return?

This doesn't make any sense and  makes me think you have the reasoning ability of a child.
Permalink MS 
October 7th, 2017 10:27am
MS, we can have the ban you want. However, this will require the removal of the Constitution and installing a dictatorial regime. All you liberals will be rounded up at once. Is this what you want? Be careful what you are asking for.
Permalink WildRiver 
October 7th, 2017 11:27am
I have not said I want guns banned.
Permalink MS 
October 7th, 2017 1:20pm

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