Y'all are a bunch of wankers!

Roman Emperor

Between 14 AD and 395 AD the causes of death for the 70 Roman Emperors was:

23 assassinated
8 possibly assassinated
9 killed in battle
5 suicide
3 executed
1 died in captivity
1 unknown cause
20 natural causes

And people wonder why that Empire didn't last.

I am more surprised for how long the system survived, despite the almost permanent civil war after the first century.
Permalink Lotti Fuehscheim 
September 9th, 2017 11:52am
I'm with you on that one.

The Brits made so much of "The Empire That Was Rome" -- Democracy, Legions of Soldiers.

But to me, it seemed like the Democracy ended very quickly, replaced by a sequence of lunatic Emperors that made Rome stagger along like a zombie until it collapsed of its own incompetence.

And then THAT model of Rome becomes the model for EVERY civilization that apparently repeats the mistake of accepting their bullshit for truth, bad economics for greatness.  Then they fall and the New Guy takes over.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
September 9th, 2017 11:57am
The rot set in after Marcus Aurelius.
Permalink libtard_uk 
September 9th, 2017 2:27pm
Although Nero was a bit of a nut job, wasn't he drowned in his bath by his servants.
Permalink libtard_uk 
September 9th, 2017 2:28pm
>And people wonder why that Empire didn't last.

Huh? It did last for a long time. The Roman Republic era lasted about 500 years while the Empire period of Rome lasted approximately 1,500 years.
Permalink One Programmer's Opinion 
September 9th, 2017 4:11pm
I could rephrase that: people still argue why it collapsed.

Personally I don't see it as a final collapse of something, but as a rather gradual transformation of parts splitting of, with the most disruptive that which was token by the Arabs, the Middle East and North Africa.

The Western and Greek parts of the Empire did live on as Empires of their own, well into the Middle Ages.
Permalink Lotti Fuehscheim 
September 9th, 2017 4:43pm
Didn't it live until +1453?
Permalink Shylock 
September 9th, 2017 9:09pm
> Didn't it live until +1453?

It is hard to call the Byzantium of the 15th century an Empire. But they did call themselves still Romans, yes.

But one could point at the Vatican and still call it a form of the Western Empire - without Emperor, but they have claimed the authority to crown Emperors throughout the Middle Ages.

Or one could argue that it was Napoleon who disbanded the (Holy) Roman Empire.
Permalink Lotti Fuehscheim 
September 10th, 2017 3:00am
Yes, it was pretty small at the end for an Empire (a lot like the Aztec Empire at the end), but it was the successor.

IIRC they had some success reconquering a good chunk of the western empire until the plague and the Arabs went on rampages.
Permalink Shylock 
September 10th, 2017 6:59am

This topic is archived. No further replies will be accepted.

Other topics: September, 2017 Other topics: September, 2017 Recent topics Recent topics