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Smalltalk Refugees Welcome in Austin

Shylock,

Our direct client in Austin, Texas is looking for several C# OR Java developers with an AWESOME OO background.

The manager is an ex-Smalltalker, and is looking for other ex-Smalltalkers that really understand Object Oriented Design.  She will consider developers without Smalltalk, but they need to excel at behavior-oriented object modeling.

These are long-term, renewable contract positions. Candidates must work onsite in Austin, Texas.

Interested? If so, please let me know a good number and time to reach you.  Our client is scheduling interviews ASAP.

OR, if not of interest: please pass this on to your network:  we offer a $1000 bonus for successful referrals!

I am available to talk during and after business hours – whatever works best for your schedule.

Thanks, and I look forward to hearing from you.

Chandni

Chandni Batra
Senior Technical Recruiter
Precision Systems
973-377-7500 ext. 128
CBatra@PrecisionSystems.com
Permalink Shylock 
September 7th, 2017 9:46pm
> behavior-oriented object modeling

A search on this term came up with this:

http://conradbock.org/processcategory.html

Control flow - go ahead and start the next step, but the check for available inputs occurs internal to the step. So if you're missing something, you block inside the step.

Data flow - steps are started once all the data is available. So something external to the step initiates it once it determines that start conditions are satisfied.

State machine - Steps are started when something happens in the environment to cause this.  Missing data input would cause the state to change to an error state, not block.
Permalink Send private email xampl9 
September 7th, 2017 10:28pm
Huh, wonder who this is. There can't be many Smalltalk users here.
Permalink NPR 
September 8th, 2017 9:00am
The only people I know that are this big on O-O design are The Advisory Board
Permalink Send private email xampl9 
September 8th, 2017 9:23am
New Iron is another one.
Permalink NPR 
September 8th, 2017 10:22am
Call the number listed.
Permalink Shylock 
September 8th, 2017 10:35am
Indian recruiter == most likely fake ad for H1b.

They "won't find a qualified American", but will find an H1b with 10 years experience in all their requirements, willing to work for $60k.
Permalink FSK 
September 8th, 2017 4:06pm
Oh, it's definitely a shitty job regardless of pay. What kind of idiot holds so tightly to the OO religion? I just thought it funny.
Permalink Shylock 
September 8th, 2017 4:16pm
"it's definitely a shitty job regardless of pay"

I pretty much totally disagree?

I see no evidence it's a shitty job. They have a really specific skill set that isn't overly broad. And lots of smart people have said that Smalltalk is a fantastic language to work with. We know the problem with it is there are no commercial opportunities to do so. Well here's one. Maybe the pay is good. This could be the best job in America. Probably not, but I see nothing to indicate it's "shitty". WTF!
Permalink Reality Check 
September 8th, 2017 4:33pm
As I read it "really understand Object Oriented Design" and "ex-Smalltalker" means this:

OOP means:

1. Everything Is An Object.
2. Objects communicate by sending and receiving messages.
3. Objects have their own memory.
4. Every object is an instance of a class.
5. The class holds the shared behavior for its instances.
6. To eval a program list, control is passed to the first object and the remainder is treated as its message.

And OOP does NOT mean:

- C++


They are looking for people that "get" this and can demonstrate it through programming examples.

I personally subscribe to this doctrine. Few do. Most are cult of C++ and say crazy and totally wrong stuff like "C++ is an OOPL."

Message passing is awesome.
Permalink Reality Check 
September 8th, 2017 4:37pm
Yeah, I agree, sounds like a solid gig - maybe.

I can count the number of people I've worked with who knew anything about Smalltalk on one hand. One of them was a terrible engineer, though he seemed brilliant in other ways. The rest of the ones I've encountered who liked Smalltalk gravitated to Ruby because of its similarities (message-passing).
Permalink NPR 
September 8th, 2017 5:21pm
Yes, I know OO very well. Did 3 years of SmallTalk back in the 1990's, and I remember it well.

It attracts pinch-nosed fanatics who follow the OO philosophy with religious devotion, at the expense of actually delivering software. This lady seems to fit that bill. Makes me run away screaming.
Permalink Shylock 
September 8th, 2017 6:27pm
How about anti-OO? Is it not also religious?
Permalink Rk 
September 8th, 2017 9:48pm
Objects Are Fine For What They Are But Not Everything Is An Object.

OAFFWTABNEIAO. I think this might be the reason that this school never really gained traction.
Permalink , Cup 
September 8th, 2017 11:34pm
>How about anti-OO? Is it not also religious?

Indeed, it can be. If I can make money with OO, then I will. That's why I'm learning Python. Valuable key word.
Permalink Shylock 
September 9th, 2017 9:05pm

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