Give ne back my hat!

Have any of you ever threatened to quit a job?

It's been a bad week and a half or so

I was called twice in the middle of the night

I was called early one morning to look at another issue

I had to stay over twice to deal with what should have been easy solutions because management doesn't keep spare equipment on hand.

There is no extra pay for any of this.

Management decided to install equipment that are difficult for end users to work with and constantly break, which has been my headache almost every day.

My boss is sitting on vacation time requests I submitted a month ago.  I submitted one about two months ago and then submitted another a month ago.  The requests from two months ago was approved when I submitted the request one month ago.  I haven't said anything because he will eventually approve but WTF is up with this game?

When the boss wants to call me out about something, he'll send an e-mail and doesn't want to confront me face to face.  If he sends a nagging email and then I approach him, he acts like he doesn't want to talk about it. 

We have these office moves that take place from time to time.  A co-worker (boss's friend) scheduled the office move to take place at the end of one of my shifts (AFTER the time requested by the department) which doesn't give me enough time to work and also I am there by myself when there are others guys on site earlier in the day.  I proposed a new time and didn't hear back from the guy.

Now my boss is re-visiting this:

http://crazyontap.com/topic.php?TopicId=320328#1103680

The one guy who was pushing this before is now boss and trying to get me to work split shifts again.  Why not go with a COMMON SENSE solution and have one guy work a shift that starts that early?  I went over his head (before he was boss) and proposed that idea to his boss who nixed his power play.  Now he's in power but I could still go over his head.  We have more people now so it wouldn't be AS often but still a burden (i.e. having to take care of this early every morning including off days, and then have to go in later on scheduled work days - 12 shifts in a week).

Little by little, I am slowly having more stuff thrown onto my plate...and getting nothing in return.  I cannot get any software dev stuff done due to the constant interruptions throughout the day (including training the new guys)

I am being expected to take more responsibility and get involved in day to day operations which takes me away from the work that I like and good at, software development.

I'm going to have to have a talk with this guy and see if we can schedule a one on one.  I have three different bosses (two on site, one off site) and they all have a different agenda on what my job should be.

The immediate boss is playing a game, using his power to benefit himself.  His boss has no clue what's going on.  His other boss works in another state.  Should I schedule one on ones with just my immediate boss?  Should I schedule a separate one on one with his boss (going over his head)?  Should I schedule a one on one with both of them at the same time? 

Have any of you ever threatened to quit because unreasonable demands were placed on you without anything given to you in return?  They hired a guy awhile back who has some of my skillset but he's not yet ready to take my place.
Permalink the dot 
May 19th, 2017 11:10am
I do what Nike says: "Just Do It". That is my motto when it comes to quitting a job.
Permalink WorldRover 
May 19th, 2017 11:12am
Do you think the company will threaten to fire you if the profit is down? LOL. NO. You will be out of the door with your shoe-box in hand immediately.
Permalink WorldRover 
May 19th, 2017 11:13am
Forget the threats, just fucking leave.

Get another job FIRST.

Aim for a 10% pay increase (minimum).

If you can't get another job...

..shut the fuck up.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 19th, 2017 11:15am
Quite often.

First time was for seemingly minor reasons: construction work put us temporarily into a shortage of rooms, so some people of the team would have to work in another building.

The manager assigned me to the off-site group. I told him that I would start writing application letters for other jobs that evening if he would not change his choice.

He reversed his decision, but half an hour later he came to me, very angry, summoned me at his office and told me never to do such a thing again, because next time he wouldn't give in...
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
May 19th, 2017 11:19am
> Do you think the company will threaten to fire you if the profit is down? LOL. NO. You will be out of the door with your shoe-box in hand immediately.

I have seen it happen to co-workers.
Permalink the dot 
May 19th, 2017 11:25am
Sorry your job sucks.  Sounds like a real shit-show.

You can have a frank and serious discussion with your boss about this but it sounds like there's way too much dysfunction for them to be able to make you happy even if they wanted to.

Line up a new job and bounce.
Permalink Wabi-sabi 
May 19th, 2017 11:27am
> Forget the threats, just fucking leave.

> Get another job FIRST.

> Aim for a 10% pay increase (minimum).

10%?  I was thinking 20% but maybe 10% is sufficient (or even less if closer to home) with the BS going on.  I will have to resist the urge to bitch and complain so I can part on good terms.
Permalink the dot 
May 19th, 2017 11:30am
I did consider recommending 20%...

..but then I realised you'd just use getting less than that as an excuse for not leaving.

Fucking LEAVE!!!
Permalink Sangamon 
May 19th, 2017 11:33am
> Sorry your job sucks.  Sounds like a real shit-show.

Things got better for awhile, but just when I let my guard down and think "maybe I should just stay", shit gets worse again.  The job is relatively stable but I am often drained at the end of the work day and work week.

It gets tiring to constantly have to look over your shoulder and cover your ass.  End users get frustrated as a result of decisions management makes and I have to listen to it.

> You can have a frank and serious discussion with your boss about this but it sounds like there's way too much dysfunction for them to be able to make you happy even if they wanted to.

The last time we had a frank discussion was before he became supervisor.  He was talking about quitting at the time.  He still might be but isn't saying much now.  I can't tell if he is in over his head and looking for some relief or if he is just trying to take advantage of his "power" and looking to make his job easier at others expense.  He likes the authority but not the responsibility part of his job.

> Line up a new job and bounce.

Time to restart the job search.
Permalink the dot 
May 19th, 2017 11:37am
Nope. I put out fires on occasions as long as it doesn't become permanent. It doesn't reflect in pay as much as in it compensates by getting implicit allowance to do little things in return like running errands during the day.
Permalink Io 
May 19th, 2017 11:50am
Also turning a 9-18 into a 9:30 - 17:30, including lunch. If you're the guy that fixes the server after 19:00 Friday evening and the client threatens to leave otherwise, they aren't going to fire you for not warming your seat 9 hours per day on the clock.

Of course, after such a fix, the procedures must be discussed on Monday so that the fixing is an unfortunate exception and not the standard deploy procedure.
Permalink Io 
May 19th, 2017 11:54am
I was just wondering how come my new employer gets away with such a sloppy deploy system, took me two weeks to get a single trivial modification in code (add a log line) run an an actual production device.

Had some help from an elder guy but mostly had to figure it out myself and it involves some 7 systems each with it's build system, with a zillion branches all dependent on each others including ones which don't exist anymore.
Permalink Io 
May 19th, 2017 11:57am
Deploying production code is a nebulous where noone knows at least approximately what code runs and where. Unimaginable in finance but I thought, hey, this is just industry.

Then another newbie mistake, albeit it's a big corporation with years and billions backing it. Deploy on Friday evening without going through QA at least.

Fuck, we didn't deploy on Friday period, after a full week of dev, QA and UAT tests. If it reaches Friday and it's rock solid, then it's not rock solid. Sorry but you'll have to wait till Monday. Or possibly compete with Knight Capital, if that's OK with you.
Permalink Io 
May 19th, 2017 12:02pm
s/If it reaches Friday/If it reaches Friday *morning*/g.
Permalink Io 
May 19th, 2017 12:03pm
dot:

- If your job is so bad that you're ready to quit, consider moving for an equal or lower salary.  Remember that a lower salary WITH A 40 HOUR FIXED WEEK is actually a higher hourly rate than you're making now.

- If you're ready to quit, just stop doing on-call and unpaid overtime.  If they fire you, they fire you; you were going to quit anyway.  Turn off your pager, unplug your phone, they'll get the hint.

If they're as understaffed as you say, what are they going to do after they fire you?
Permalink FSK 
May 19th, 2017 6:53pm
> Also turning a 9-18 into a 9:30 - 17:30, including lunch.

I am going to propose this if they move forward with the split shift shit
Permalink the dot 
May 19th, 2017 8:34pm
> If your job is so bad that you're ready to quit, consider moving for an equal or lower salary.  Remember that a lower salary WITH A 40 HOUR FIXED WEEK is actually a higher hourly rate than you're making now.

True especially if the commute is less

> If you're ready to quit, just stop doing on-call and unpaid overtime.  If they fire you, they fire you; you were going to quit anyway.  Turn off your pager, unplug your phone, they'll get the hint.

On call is mandatory as there is a rotation.  I will have to start doing this on weeks I am not on call.

> If they're as understaffed as you say, what are they going to do after they fire you?

Hire someone else and struggle.  They hired a couple new guys recently but they have ways to go before they are up to speed
Permalink the dot 
May 19th, 2017 8:43pm
"On call is mandatory as there is a rotation.  I will have to start doing this on weeks I am not on call. "

Lol. You failed. Try again.
Permalink NPR 
May 19th, 2017 10:30pm
> Lol. You failed. Try again.

LOL ok so a priority 1 ticket (that affects revenue) comes in and I should just ignored it and let them page the boss's boss (next on the escalation list) who doesn't now how to fix anything?  I think it would be better to leave voluntarily than to get fired. :)
Permalink the dot 
May 19th, 2017 10:44pm
Guys stop responding to this bullshit. It's fake.
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 19th, 2017 10:57pm
It's not fake, why the fuck would anyone make this stuff up?
Permalink the dot 
May 19th, 2017 11:03pm
Because you're a drama queen (charitably) aka troll making shit up for shits and giggles?
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 19th, 2017 11:20pm
> Because you're a drama queen (charitably) aka troll making shit up for shits and giggles?

Says the troll who posts under multiple accounts. 

Everything I've posted is a true story.  What's your story?
Permalink the dot 
May 19th, 2017 11:24pm

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