I keep hearing about this internet thing. Maybe some day I will try it.

Welcome back to the motherland, Crimeans!

http://www.politico.eu/article/for-crimeas-drug-users-a-russian-death-sentence-hiv-treatment-aids-methadone/

"Andrey Yudenko began to get his addiction under control with the help of a Ukrainian substitution therapy program, a treatment for those who have tried but failed to quit drugs and are given an alternative substance under medical supervision.

The 31-year-old had been injecting drugs since he was a teenager and started the therapy two years before Moscow took over the peninsula.

He died two months after the Russian annexation of Crimea — when his treatment was abruptly revoked.

Substitution therapy is used widely internationally as part of strategies to reduce HIV and other health and social harms associated with illegal drug use. In Ukraine, it has been included in the national HIV-prevention strategy since 2006, with 800 patients in Crimea by 2014.

In Russia, however, the treatment is criticized for not “curing” drug addiction, or allegedly being a plot by western pharma to increase profits. Banned since 1998, its use carries a 20-year prison sentence.

For Yudenko, the Russian takeover may as well have been a death sentence. His mother Olga says that when he realized the program would be closed, he simply gave up.

“He sat with his head in his hands and said, ‘Mum, it’s the end. It’s the end,’” she said.

After the annexation in March 2014, Moscow announced a “transition period” until the end of the year for Crimea to adapt to Russian law. The Alliance for Public Health, which runs substitution therapy programs in Ukraine with funding from the Global Fund to fight AIDS, TB and malaria, tried to negotiate for an extended reduction period for substitution therapy over those nine months, while patients sent a letter of appeal to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

It was to no avail. Then Russian drug czar Viktor Ivanov visited Crimea on March 20 that year and announced the program’s immediate closure. Patients received their last doses of methadone exactly two months later.

Visitors from the Russian drug control agency and from state rehabilitation networks — well-groomed young women or men in suits — promised patients free inpatient detoxification courses in Crimea and rehabilitation in Russia. In reality, Olga recalls patients in Feodosia arriving at the drug treatment clinic with packed bags on May 21, only to be turned away with a few tranquilizers and painkillers."

Don't exactly what they promised in 2014, is it?
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 6:48am
I had a girlfriend who worked for a rehab charity, she said methadone was more addictive than heroin and that the best rehab was cold turkey for 2 weeks, after that you are no longer chemically addicted, it's all psychological and environmental.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 7:01am
And damp stinking cells.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 7:06am
I saw a film ages ago about a pair who went cold turkey. It was a couple of weeks and it was awful but they came out the other side ok. Similar to what Sangamon said.
Permalink , Cup 
May 18th, 2017 7:15am
The teenager in the original post didn't.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 7:18am
Liver failure is not a withdrawal sympton from heroin.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 7:21am
Way to miss the point by obsessing over irrelevant details. Typical tech idiot.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 7:26am
The article is attempting to cast Russia in a bad light for its refusal to use methadone as a 'treatment' for heroin addiction.

I refuted the argument.

You then implied that the person referenced died as a result of the Russian policy.

That also is false.

Quit your bullshit.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 7:32am
The article is reporting on the heavy-handed and erratic approach of Russian government to existing drug rehabilitation programmes in Crimea.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 7:51am
The article is using an unrelated death to criticise the Russian government on the erronious basis that methadone is the best treatment for heroin addiction.

You're an idiot for falling for such blatant MSM propaganda.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 7:57am
"Visitors from the Russian drug control agency and from state rehabilitation networks — well-groomed young women or men in suits — promised patients free inpatient detoxification courses in Crimea and rehabilitation in Russia. In reality, Olga recalls patients in Feodosia arriving at the drug treatment clinic with packed bags on May 21, only to be turned away with a few tranquilizers and painkillers."

Did they make this up?
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 8:04am
Your assumption that methadone treatment doesn't work is not supported by evidence.

http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/203/5/341?ijkey=621f46707437cb3247cdc2198d6d3d8ae0688e00&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1998.83.1.295
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 8:09am
In Russia, detox using methadone has been banned since 1998.

Your drug addled Crimeans are idiots

But then we knew that already, they're drug addicts.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 8:09am
Sangamon says the only method of treating drug addiction is bullet in the head.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 8:10am
Yoda, if you bothered to read those reports you cited...

1) they compare methodone to continuing with heroin

2) they falsely compare the price of methadone to illegaly obtained heroin, pharaceutically obtained heroin is cheaper than methodone.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 8:15am
"they falsely compare the price of methadone to illegaly obtained heroin, pharaceutically obtained heroin is cheaper than methodone."

You made this up.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 8:19am
Try reading the report you cited you ignorant fucker.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 8:20am
So you're saying that Russia switched from methadone to providing opioids to treated addicts?

Because if that's what you're saying, you're absolutely wrong: they cancelled the existing treatment without providing any alternatives.

This is what the article in Politico is about.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 8:26am
Do keep up 007.

You stated that my claim that heroin was cheaper than methodone treatment was a lie. I posted links to two sources backing my claim.

In Russia, drugs were made illegal in 1998, this includes methodone. The Russians consider (correctly) that methodone is no better than heroin.

The two issues are separate.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 8:36am
Only in the mind of an idiot.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 8:39am
You're the idiot who posted propaganda links on the falsely claimed superiority of methodone, not me.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 8:41am
Bullshit.

How much is Vladimir paying you?
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 8:49am
I posted both anectotal evidence from a personal friend, and two independent reports sourced from separate studies involving hundreds of people.

Your best effort is a report of one person who died of liver disease.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 8:53am
Millions of Ukrainians (or should I say citizens of Ukraine) use Russian social media, but that has now, last week, been banned in Ukraine.

I would say that is a matter of serious censorship, and not a sign of an open democratic society, where people can chose where they want to communicate.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
May 18th, 2017 8:54am
The legitimate government of the Ukraine was replaced by a CIA puppet.

As has happened before, in multiple countries, including Russia (Yeltsin).
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 8:58am
[grabs popcorn]
Permalink Io 
May 18th, 2017 8:59am
"Millions of Ukrainians (or should I say citizens of Ukraine) use Russian social media, but that has now, last week, been banned in Ukraine."

Ukraine is not a model society. EU has been practically begging the Ukrainian parliament to adopt a law banning discrimination of sexual minorities, offering preferential deals as a carrot. Ukrainian parliament voted against it with a HUGE majority.

(Note that Ukrainians got visa-free travel to the EU anyway in the end.)
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 9:03am
"The legitimate government of the Ukraine was replaced by a CIA puppet."

That's an oversimplification. A more accurate statement is that USA and Russia were backing different political factions in Ukraine, and currently the USA-backed one is winning. Russian aggression is not going to make Ukrainians sympathetic to it.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 9:04am
Oliver Stone is not an authority on anything involving Russian-American conflict.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 9:08am
Jeez Yoda, you're such an ignorant fuck

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 9:11am
Oliver Stone is not an authority on anything.
Permalink Shylock 
May 18th, 2017 9:17am
Milne's article is BS.

"That might be more explicable if what is going on in eastern Ukraine now were not the mirror image of what took place in Kiev a couple of months ago."

No it wasn't, there were no "little green men" sent by USA in Kiev.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 9:27am
Though I agree that US meddling in Ukraine was harmful.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 9:28am
You know the US routinely interferes in the elections/governments of other countries, right?

The count is over 80, including Canada, Mexico, France, Germany, Russia etc.
Permalink Sangamon 
May 18th, 2017 9:31am
> No it wasn't, there were no "little green men" sent by USA in Kiev.

No, they used neo-nazi criminal gangs.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
May 18th, 2017 9:32am
"No, they used neo-nazi criminal gangs."

Possibly, but there was a lot of genuine protest in Western Ukraine against the abandonment by Yanukovych of the Ukraine-EU deal.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 9:41am
> but there was a lot of genuine protest in Western Ukraine against the abandonment by Yanukovych of the Ukraine-EU deal.

The EU deal was evil: it was a 'us or them' ultimatum, very irresponsible in such a divided country.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
May 18th, 2017 9:48am
AFAIR it was Russia who gave them such ultimatum.
Permalink Yoda 
May 18th, 2017 9:57am
"He died two months after the Russian annexation of Crimea"

THey blame Russia for his death. How did he die? Heroin overdose? Suicide?
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 18th, 2017 10:51am
> In Russia, Methadone treatment is criticized for not curing drug addiction,

Which is absolutely true. It's giving you one opioid instead of another. You're still an addict.

> and being a scheme by western pharma to increase profits.

That is a correct observation by Russia.

> Banned since 1998, its use carries a 20-year prison sentence.

Well good for them for doing the right thing.
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 18th, 2017 10:53am
OMG, the only place they reveal how he died is in the CAPTION to one of the photos - liver failure.

He dies of liver failure and they cast this as a "death sentence" given to him by the evil Russians.

OMFG.
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
May 18th, 2017 10:58am