Y'all are a bunch of wankers!

H1B visa is in the news! Don't forget to read the comments.

Even brand new American citizen agrees. A comment from a poster on slashdot:

I just got the results of this years lottery. My MS Mech UT Austin, and MS CompSci CalTech candidates did not make it. Makes me furious that they are going to bring in candidates with paper from diploma mills from my home state in India, while these good candidates are denied visa.

Our company makes very sincere effort to recruit Americans and comply with the laws in spirit as well as letter. We pay way above median wage for our areas. We are hard core engineering software company, not IT. I have not seen applicants with degrees from Indian Institutes of Technology in the last 10 years. It has simply dried up. IITians now a days get fantastic jobs in India, or they go do MBA and come to USA to do MBA and get jobs in top Wall Street firms and top 4 consultancy companies.

I do see applicants with degrees from next rung in India, NITs and good engineering colleges with Masters from USA.

The only change they really need to make to the H1B program is to state that degrees from accredited US universities will be given first preference. Degrees from diploma mills from India should not count. That would be enough to make sure these companies like TCS, Cogniscent, Wipro, Infosys and the lesser known body shoppers like R-systems, UBICS, Bharat Desai's companies, Sunil Wadhwani's companies etc stop gaming our laws.

(my background: IIT, IISc, UT, F1, H1B, Green Card, Citizen now.)
Permalink WildRiver 
April 18th, 2017 8:38pm
Another comment:

To understand how this scam works... H1-B Indian will have BS/MS degrees (from India) and they are willing to work for $35,000. So the body shop takes out tiny ads in local newspapers offering to hire programmers/testers with a BS/MS for $35,000. Of course no qualified US computer person is going to take work at $35,000/yr. These ads generate the "proof" needed that these jobs can't be filled by Americans.

The body shop then brings in 500 H1-B people and pays them $35,000/yr. According to the law this is allowed, there are no US citizen willing to take these jobs at $35,000/yr. But then the owner of this body shop turns right around and places these people as temp workers for $80,000/yr. He undercuts the US temp workers who would get $90,000/yr.

This is a great business $80,000 - $35,000 = $45,000 profit per H1-B visa per year. This is how you make $100M from owning a body shop over the course of a few years.
Permalink WildRiver 
April 18th, 2017 8:39pm
There is no implementation of the law that doesn't have exploitable loopholes.

If you say "must interview Americans first", then they'll have ridiculous requirements.  The H1-b candidate will, of course, have a forged resume that exactly matches the requirements.

I get annoyed when I go on interviews and everyone there is an H1-b visa.  I spend 2 hours commuting, get dressed up for a interview, get all hyped up, for a job I never had any chance of getting.

If you want to hire an unqualified H1-b ahead of me, go ahead.  But making me waste half a day for some bureaucratic paperwork requirement is ridiculous.
Permalink FSK 
April 18th, 2017 10:01pm
At my current job, there are a number of H1B folks who have come through some domestic body shops (like TekSystems). All of the ones that I've met are smart and get the job done.

Making H1B requirements harder will just make folks like Infosys, Wipro and Tata use L1 visas.
Permalink Pie is a lot better than ... 
April 19th, 2017 12:01am
They might well be smart and get the job done, however they also depress wages.
Permalink AntiAntiFa 
April 19th, 2017 9:58am
They're not "smart and get the job done", they're cheap and make promises they can't keep for three years, then after three years it FINALLY becomes evident the scale of the disaster.

But since this is not unusual in software development, at least they do it at ten-cents on the dollar compared to anyone else.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
April 19th, 2017 10:06am

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