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New co-worker is overbearing

Previously mentioned here:

http://www.crazyontap.com/topic.php?TopicId=325918&Posts=37

So he's not blatantly ordering me around anymore (thank you guys) but he's showing himself to be toxic in other ways.
 
The guy is pushy, opinionated, and critical.

Say something and he almost always disagrees, also likes to correct people when he thinks they are wrong

Likes to nitpick. A co-worker was showing us pics of a job he did and the guy nitpicked him and pissed him off to the point where the other guy yelled at him in response and walked away frustrated. Seemed they kissed and made up the next day tho as they seemed to be getting along.

He's always talking about how to make things better in a company that doesn't really value innovation much anymore

He likes to interrupt you when you're trying to get something done. I've been bending over backwards in an attempt to try and help get him trained and he takes advantage of it.

He thinks he knows everything

He will cuss in front of co-workers that he barely knows

He's making suggestions and acting like someone two pay grades above him, which I'm not sure the bosses like all that much.

He likes to bash people he worked with at his previous company.

If he doesn't know something, he keeps his voice down. If he does know something, he'll speak up as if he wants the boss to hear what he's saying.

If the boss comes over and talks to me, he walks right over to join into the conversation....even if the topic has nothing to do with him.  What's up with that?

Maybe I should let him hang himself?  Something tells me that management is going to get annoyed by him before long if they are not already. I'm guessing either he knows someone and is on the fast track up the ladder (or corporate) or he's going to piss somebody off which gets him run off. He's not really the type that would keep his cool in a stressful situation.
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 11:31am
So I had a "co-worker" like that. He criticised everything my boss did.

One year later, this "co-worker" was running the whole team.
Permalink Yoda 
March 29th, 2017 11:36am
Yeah he does criticize decisions made by the higher ups (to me) although he hasn't called out anyone by name.

That could happen if someone in management decides to jump ship. 
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 11:44am
I heard him talking to another co worker, who was bitched at by another dept manager and he flat out told him that the guy comes across as a pushover.  The other guy is new too and this guy orders him around sometimes aven tho they are both new and have the same job title lol.
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 11:46am
Baseball bat
Permalink Sangamon 
March 29th, 2017 11:46am
Invite him to COT.
He'd fit right in.
Permalink Bill 
March 29th, 2017 11:48am
He kind of sounds like me, though the difference is that I really am right about everything.
Permalink Pestular Croaker 
March 29th, 2017 11:49am
Lol
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 11:52am
What do you guys suggest doing if a manager approaches me to talk about a project and this guy walks over uninvited?  He seems to have a habit of doing that...and then put in his two cents.

Tell him to fuck off in front of the manager or ignore him?
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 11:58am
Go for a coffee?
Permalink Sangamon 
March 29th, 2017 12:02pm
Not a coffee drinker. 

I get along with him most of the time and must admit I am amused by his criticism of decisions that are made by the higher ups, vendors, etc.  The dude just tends to be annoying at times.
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 12:22pm
"What do you guys suggest doing if a manager approaches me to talk about a project and this guy walks over uninvited?  He seems to have a habit of doing that...and then put in his two cents.

Tell him to fuck off in front of the manager or ignore him?"

Leave it for your manager to handle.
Permalink Yoda 
March 29th, 2017 12:38pm
> Leave it for your manager to handle.

The manager had his attention on me and then I turned around and I that made it a 3 way conversation.  I should have kept my back turned and paid little attention to him I guess.  Some people who have been with a company for awhile like to treat newbies like shit but I don't want to go down that road unless I have to.
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 12:42pm
Honestly, grunt, he doesn't actually sound that bad.  I think you have problem in thinking people should act and behave a certain way because of their seniority or station.  Fuck that shit.  We live in a country where it's oftentimes admired to speak your mind in front of "superiors".
Permalink Kenny the Robot 
March 29th, 2017 1:08pm
I could never get away with it, esp with the sociopath and control freak mgmt teams we had before.  There would be repercussions.
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 1:17pm
You are in a tough spot.

How would you treat him if he was your wife?

The best advice: Be straight forward. Tell bozo how he makes you feel and why.  Tell him what you expect him to do differently.
Permalink Legion 
March 29th, 2017 2:01pm
Nooooo!

Do not interact with him any more than necessary

Keep your head down
Do your job
Document everything (as previously discussed)
Permalink Sangamon 
March 29th, 2017 2:22pm
You are right sage man.
Permalink Legion 
March 29th, 2017 5:06pm
What if he needs help?  It's pretty much on me to train this guy and if he isn't trained properly, then he will be calling me during off hours.
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 5:58pm
Don't answer the phone off hours.

It is hard to properly train people who you can't stand to be with.  I'm not sure I would do a good job.

I'd try really hard to turn the relationship into a friendship.  Some of my close friends were people whom I couldn't stand when I first met them.  One guy I confronted daily. I told him to stop using his speaker phone in the cube farm. I told him he had no business taking the company supplied laptop and giving it to his son as a game machine. I got on his case nearly every day.

What changed it into a friendship? I didn't want him to perceive me as an enemy. I knew he was Canadian and that he was a sports fan. I bought him a baseball with a maple leaf on it when I made a trip to Canada. He was so surprised!  That really broke the ice, and he started to respect what I was trying to tell him about his distractions and bad behavior.
Permalink Legion 
March 29th, 2017 8:51pm
>If the boss comes over and talks to me, he walks right over to join into the conversation....even if the topic has nothing to do with him.  What's up with that?

He is an atttention whore.

>What do you guys suggest doing if a manager approaches me to talk about a project and this guy walks over uninvited?  He seems to have a habit of doing that...and then put in his two cents.

I'd say "do you mind, we were talking".
Permalink Pie is a lot better than ... 
March 29th, 2017 10:44pm
> Don't answer the phone off hours.

I usually don't unless the boss calls or if I'm "on call" that week.  I will otherwise receive a text and then answer the text when I get a chance.

> It is hard to properly train people who you can't stand to be with.  I'm not sure I would do a good job.

I wouldn't say I can't stand him but it's difficult enough to juggle everything and deal with three bosses (that aren't on the same page) let alone some newbie who thinks he's the boss. 

> I'd try really hard to turn the relationship into a friendship.

Perhaps that's the best way to go.  I don't care to make him an enemy.

I'm about ready to go "Office Space" on these guys and stop giving a fuck.
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 11:54pm
> He is an atttention whore.

Yes he is!  That is accurate.

> I'd say "do you mind, we were talking".

Will that make me look like the bad guy or too defensive?  I know as soon as I start talking about one of my projects in his presence, he will put his two cents in.
Permalink grunt 
March 29th, 2017 11:57pm
BTW as far as telling to fuck off goes....  We have another co-worker who a manager in another department yelled at.  This guy said that if the manager would have said that to him that he would have demanded an apology or went to HR.
Permalink grunt 
March 30th, 2017 12:25am
How about "Sorry for neglecting you, Coworker, I'll be right over to answer your question as soon as the boss is finished with me." Then turn away from Coworker toward the boss and resume conversation and totally ignore Coworker no matter what.
Permalink , Cup 
March 30th, 2017 6:04am
Thanks Cup, I will keep that in mind.
Permalink grunt 
March 30th, 2017 12:40pm
The best revenge is figuring out how to fuck his wife/gf unless she is fat and ugly.
Permalink WildRiver 
March 30th, 2017 1:01pm

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