I bet they'd invent a great language for smells.

How much is NOT being an open office worth to you?

Are you willing to be paid below market to have a cube in a quiet location that is not in an open office?
Permalink ? 
March 18th, 2017 1:16pm
If the company doesn't care if I am productive, then why should I care?

Give me money.
Permalink Legion 
March 18th, 2017 1:34pm
I'd object to on-call support much more than an open office.

Using an open plan office as a negotiating point is kind of silly since they're everywhere nowadays.
Permalink FSK 
March 18th, 2017 1:47pm
5 dollars
Permalink per hour. 
March 18th, 2017 1:54pm
Modern places cram everyone onto communal desks and then have a crazy breakout room with a table tennis table and bean bags!
Permalink Perks Tech 
March 18th, 2017 4:00pm
Right now I have a cubicle in a room with 12 people.  It's so nice.  It's mostly quiet most of the time.

A typical open plan office would cram 100+ people into the same space.
Permalink FSK 
March 18th, 2017 4:35pm
Here's another downside of open plan offices:

When they convert a floor from offices/cubes to open plan, they typically DON'T make bigger bathrooms.

You have way too dirty bathrooms because they're being used by 5x the normal capacity.
Permalink FSK 
March 18th, 2017 4:36pm
"You have way too dirty bathrooms because they're being used by 5x the normal capacity."
Permalink Yep. Great observation. 
March 18th, 2017 4:57pm
If you're in an open office, you're already assembly line worker worth. Talking about private office is in the same realm of phantasy as what would you do if you were the president.
Permalink Io 
March 18th, 2017 5:06pm
In other words, open office and private office are completely disjoint concepts. If you can choose then you don't *have* to choose. And if you phantasise about choosing, that's all it is: a daydream.
Permalink Io 
March 18th, 2017 5:12pm
What annoys me is the CEOs and managers who claim to use the same communal space as everyone else but then take over a conference room for their own private use.
Permalink Sangamon 
March 18th, 2017 5:21pm
Same here, the project managers (not even bosses) spend most of the day in a conference room.
Permalink FSK 
March 18th, 2017 5:28pm
Conference rooms are great for talking to recruiters when you want to change jobs.
Permalink Yoda 
March 18th, 2017 5:50pm
Are you willing to be paid below market to have a cube in a quiet location that is not in an open office?

But that's not the choice.  The REASON you're being paid below market value IS BECAUSE you're desperate enough (or not sufficiently skilled or experienced yet) to HAVE to work in an open office environment.

It's an 'AND' function.  People being paid above market value are worth enough to the company to have real cubicles for them.

If you're willing to work Open Plan, then you're ALSO not worth enough to be paid above market value.  They don't save that much money with open-plan anyway.  But cutting your salary 10% because you're working open-plan?  Priceless.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 20th, 2017 4:22pm
Kind of ironic - Put people in an open plan office, ruining their productivity.  Then the low productivity is justification for low salaries.
Permalink FSK 
March 20th, 2017 7:13pm
... Win!

Oh, wait.  That's a win if you're a marketer who thinks implementation and creation folks are a dime a dozen.  But they aren't.  So I guess "cutting costs by producing garbage no-one will want, but cheaply" isn't a long-term strategy.

But in the short term it's very seductive.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 21st, 2017 9:21am