Cubicle and phone interview
The bosses here don't get offices. Like grunts, they live in cubicles. Dumb.
Yesterday I heard the QA boss in the next cube giving a phone interview.
I cringed at many of the trite and stereotypical questions. "Where do you see yourself in five years?"
Worst was when I heard him answer a salary question. "$15 per hour."
Is that all we pay those hard working QA people? I'll have to be nicer to them.
March 18th, 2017 9:52am
Maybe it was a junior QA. Also, around here, I dunno how this dumb practice got institutionalized, but it's very popular to state that QAs don't need to have a computer science background. So becoming a QA has become something of a gold rush for otherwise dead end specialities such as arts, letters, business administration and communication, or even accounting or law. Accounting or law used to be gold rush specialities, before universities ramped up the degrees number by a factor of 10-20x and now you get some 500-2000 applicants for a minimal wage accountant job, with 4 hours commute time and explicitly stating you have no weekends.
March 18th, 2017 10:14am
Depends a bit on the type of QA.
QA people who write automated tests usually earn a lot more than manual testers.
March 18th, 2017 10:16am
I don't see you you could be an effective tester without knowing how to write tests and evaluate the results.
March 18th, 2017 10:19am
So that manual tester makes more than the restaurant manager at Mc Donald's, and in fact, may be the same person.
And I too don't get how a burger flipper specialist can be an effective QA.
March 18th, 2017 10:21am
Many manual testers don't write the tests, they just follow a script written by someone else.
How to evaluate the results is also detailed in the test scripts.
March 18th, 2017 10:31am
Who with a degree in computer science would want to be in QA?
March 18th, 2017 10:44am
Meal ticket programmers? Not everyone wants to build space ships by themselves. Looks like MTPs are aplenty, at least they can write some code.
March 18th, 2017 10:58am
So, Legion, are you always such an arrogant, codescending prick?
I am John's kidney
March 18th, 2017 11:06am
You need a degree in CS or the equivalent to be a good tester.
I agree that if one wants to hire an ineffective useless tester, they can just hire random people off the street who can't code.
March 18th, 2017 11:10am
Testing is seen as lower status. If you're good enough to be a great tester, you're better off getting a job writing software.
March 18th, 2017 11:46am
March 18th, 2017 12:01pm
I assumed NOBODY wanted to be in QA. That's just where they settled to keep from being laid off when they didn't need so many developers.
It was a mistake, because once you have QA on your resume, you're in QA hell, and cannot leave it.
"Recent programming experience?"
"Well, I've been doing QA for this system..."
"I'm sorry, we're not hiring QA today. Next."
March 20th, 2017 4:30pm