They don't even serve pork lunch in Porky the movie!

Baby gets seizures after vaccine

Saw some clip on Facebook about a 10 month old baby who started having seizures after being vaccinated against meningitis B with a vaccine who has significant risk of causing seizures (afterall it targets the brain).

Sad but why the fuck did they vaccinated him in the first place with a non-standard vaccine, for a niche disease with incidence in the 1 in 100 millions? Because the disease can kill? Crossing the street has much higher chances to kill.

It's sad when parents fuck up the life of their helpless kid because are too stupid to resist the siren song of the Big Pharma.
Permalink Io 
March 18th, 2017 7:03am
If it's some random video posted on facebook, it must be true!

It's especially true if no one else here has seen the random video you are talking about.
Permalink Armchair freud 
March 18th, 2017 7:49am
Some kids get seizures, most kids get vaccinated, correlation is not causation.
Permalink Sangamon 
March 18th, 2017 8:00am
NHS recommends it:

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vaccinations/Pages/meningitis-B-vaccine.aspx
Permalink GrumpyOldMan 
March 18th, 2017 8:37am
All vaccines are good.

All criticism of vaccines is wrong and ignorant.
Permalink Drone 
March 18th, 2017 8:42am
>for a niche disease with incidence in the 1 in 100 millions

The incidence is 1 in 10,000
Permalink Sangamon 
March 18th, 2017 9:00am
"All vaccines are good."

If a vaccine is recommended by the NHS, there is a very high probability that it is beneficial and the benefits outweigh the risks.

"All criticism of vaccines is wrong and ignorant."

Most of it is. In the case of the criticism by anonymous posters on Internet boards, almost all of it is total crap.
Permalink GrumpyOldMan 
March 18th, 2017 9:34am
We need the herd immunity.

Some miniscule amount will get sick or die after the vaccine, but you can't prove it had anything to do with the vaccine and wouldn't have happened anyway.

Those unwilling to possibly sacrifice a very small few for the greater good of herd immunity are selfish.
Permalink Drone 
March 18th, 2017 9:40am
> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/parents-shocking-video-baby-suffering-9447899

Fake news. There's no evidence the vaccine did that or that he wouldn't have gotten those seizures anyway.
Permalink Drone 
March 18th, 2017 9:41am
Now lets find some video's of baby's with meningitis.

My daughter suffered from it as a baby.

Or why don't we just open a live stream from a children's hospital. You can enjoy all the suffering you can handle.

Then reconstruct all your political ideologies.
Permalink Lotti Fuehrscheim 
March 18th, 2017 9:46am
My point is that if the incidence is low, I wouldn't give the vaccine to my kid (nor did I).
Permalink Io 
March 18th, 2017 9:57am
Especially new vaccines. I gave him the regular ones, the ones I took as a kid too. Polyomielitis, funk knows. If everyone gets them, they must be safe enough. But I'm not an early adopter of raging new tech.
Permalink Io 
March 18th, 2017 10:00am
There is aomething to be said for giving vaccinations seperately rather than in an 'all-in-one', unfortunately if you do that you also get more kids 'falling through the cracks' and getting missed.
Permalink Sangamon 
March 18th, 2017 10:07am
"Or why don't we just open a live stream from a children's hospital. You can enjoy all the suffering you can handle."

Internet has desensitised us to other people's sufferings. It's an "all suffering you can handle buffet". Feeling too happy tonight? Watch a broadcast from Aleppo. Pretty soon you will block this all or go into severe depression.
Permalink GrumpyOldMan 
March 18th, 2017 11:20am
I like watching those beheading videos. It makes me hate muslims, and that feels good.
Permalink Testicular Cancer 
March 18th, 2017 12:02pm
Hate leads to suffering.
Permalink Yoda 
March 18th, 2017 12:28pm
Seizures are not that uncommon.  The inserts even mention brain damage.

There are some problems.

1) A child's blood-brain-barrier isn't fully formed at birth.  It takes time to fully develop.  And kids develop at different rates.  Therefore some kid's brains are not as well protected.

2) A child's immune system takes time to develop.  This is why in nature breast feeding provides the immunity initially.  Therefore early vaccination doesn't always work correctly.

3) Most vaccines are poly-shots today.  They may say its the X shot but it may have X, A, K, R, J and Z in it.  They are shooting up younger children with far more vaccines than they have ever done in the past.

A number of other countries have backed off on the "massive and quick as possible" approach the US uses with vaccination.  They will give a few critical vaccines early and add the others slowly over time later.

In the US the vaccine makers have been given immunity from prosecution.  The combination of this protection and the ability to use fear to (nearly) force people to get immunized for everything under the sun has led to a significant pot of gold for these companies.
Permalink Just Another Wanderer 
March 18th, 2017 9:14pm
Most people don't even know that scientists didn't understand how vaccines actually worked until not so long ago.
Permalink Just Another Wanderer 
March 18th, 2017 9:18pm
"scientists didn't understand how vaccines actually worked until not so long ago"

This is true about most of things we use and rely on in daily life.
Permalink Yoda 
March 18th, 2017 10:25pm
How aspirin works is largely unknown.

How inert gas anaesthetics work has been theorised to be some sort of quantum effect, but nobody really knows.
Permalink Sangamon 
March 19th, 2017 2:11am
The correct statement should have been that "scientists didn't know vaccines at all". Afterall, just 150 years ago the idea that diseases are caused by microbes was still struggling for acceptance.
Permalink Io 
March 19th, 2017 6:17am
"just 150 years ago"

LOL
Permalink Yoda 
March 19th, 2017 10:13am
Semmelweis kinda got it right 170 years ago, but he reached his conclusions entirely empirically and had no knowledge of microbes, he was also largely ignored:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis
Permalink Sangamon 
March 19th, 2017 10:22am

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