I keep hearing about this Amazon thing. Maybe some day I will try it.

New co-worker acts and thinks he is a manager

I posted about him being "bossy" a couple weeks ago.

http://crazyontap.com/topic.php?TopicId=325918&Posts=37

I did read your replies and applied your suggestions (thank you).  He did stop ordering me around although this is the type of guy that needs to be constantly reminded that he is not in control.  I've noticed that he gets a little bit pissy and sulks whenever he feels slighted.

Oh well, fuck him.

A few other observations:

- He is a bit pushy and likes to talk about ideas he has.  Some are great ideas but good luck getting them through management and corporate.

- He tries to avoid grunt work thinking he is above it.

- He acts like he knows everything (although I admit he is smart....but unfocused).

- He was cussing in frustration one day when working on equipment and some of other other employees and a supervisor were looking at him like "who the hell is this guy?".  LOL.  This isn't really the type of environment that tolerates this language.  I almost said something to him (give him helpful advice) but thought it would be more amusing to wait and see what happens when he curses in front of the wrong person.  He likes using the word "fuck" a lot.

- He's talking about how he's going to make our unorganized department better.  I posted here about this, and based on your experiences at various jobs, you guys advised me not to bother trying to fix it.  He's going AGAINST your advice and try to change things.

- He doesn't seem to have a problem stepping on others' toes (in a department where people have traditionally protected their turf)

I must admit I am fascinated that this guy is breaking every rule in the COT book.  I'm kinda curious to see if anyone has worked with an aggressive/pushy personality such as this and what the end result was.

I'm thinking he's either connected to someone....or else he's totally clueless when it comes to company politics. 

Based on your experiences, what do you guys predict will happen?  1) Either he'll make a difference and move up the management ranks when there's an opening?  Or 2) he'll piss off the wrong person and either be run off or quit in frustration?

We had a MANAGER in the past who was frustrated by the company politics/inefficiencies and he became so miserable that he quit.  This guy is not even a manager.
Permalink grunt 
March 17th, 2017 10:43am
New co-worker acting like a manager is often a sign that someone, in fact, has been hired in order to be promoted to a managerial position. Find out about the guy's background, it might be he is someone's buddy and will be your boss in a few months' time, after he's learned the ropes being your "co-worker".
Permalink Grumpy Old Man 
March 17th, 2017 10:47am
Someone might mention that this guy is showing initiative and has a natural drive.

I was once like that.....and was put in my place. The nail that sticks out gets hammered down in a large company like this. 

It's a different management team but human nature remains the same.  Are the people higher up on the food chain going to let this guy tell them how to do their jobs?

Unless he's really slick, I'm not sure about that.
Permalink grunt 
March 17th, 2017 10:49am
> New co-worker acting like a manager is often a sign that someone, in fact, has been hired in order to be promoted to a managerial position. Find out about the guy's background, it might be he is someone's buddy and will be your boss in a few months' time, after he's learned the ropes being your "co-worker".

Here's the thing.  We're a small department and already have two superiors in the office giving us orders (and they are sorta butting heads).  We really don't need another one.  In order for him to move up, that means someone in management has to go.  Possible coup?
Permalink grunt 
March 17th, 2017 10:52am
Maybe your director intends him to replace your manager?
Permalink Sangamon 
March 17th, 2017 10:54am
This is why I don't want to be a total dick to the guy, just in case.

I get along with him well, for the most part, but he has this pushy side that is annoying.
Permalink grunt 
March 17th, 2017 10:55am
> Maybe your director intends him to replace your manager?

I wonder.  The two are butting heads.  Face to face, they act like they are friends.  Yet the manager has been bitching about the director.  He pointed to his office once and said "we don't need him".  He also told me to stay away from him.  There's something going on.
Permalink grunt 
March 17th, 2017 10:57am
You need to be very careful, if he screws something up really badly he might out the blame on you.
Permalink Terrorist Watch 
March 17th, 2017 10:57am
And this guy comes from a company with a jacked up environment (even worse than this one), he seems to have PTSD from that.
Permalink grunt 
March 17th, 2017 11:00am
> You need to be very careful, if he screws something up really badly he might out the blame on you.

Yeah.  He does like to play the blame game.  I've seen him do it already with vendors.
Permalink grunt 
March 17th, 2017 11:01am
You need to ensure you have hard evidence in all your dealings with this guy.

Use a digital dictaphone to keep a daily record of all conversations - just turn it on in your car before entering the building and leave it to run all day. Archive the file every night. Keep it tucked in you breast pocket or something.

If he tells you that your boss or director has told him to tell you to do something, you need to shoot him an email confirming the instruction.

'Just a note to confirm that Mr. Blah told you he wants me to blah blah blah'.

Etc.
Permalink Sangamon 
March 17th, 2017 11:17am
That's will make him look like a massive bitch.
Permalink Grumpy Old Man 
March 17th, 2017 12:43pm
That's kind of extreme.  I don't know if he's THAT bad, you think he is a sociopath?
Permalink grunt 
March 17th, 2017 1:02pm
There's no way any of us can know that.

You ask advice

We give advice

You then question/ignore the advice?

Is this how you roll?
Permalink Sangamon 
March 17th, 2017 1:13pm
No dude, but I have worked with a sociopath before.  This guy seems more up front/in your face.
Permalink grunt 
March 17th, 2017 1:26pm
He doesn't need to be a sociopath.

He only needs to be more sociopathic than you.

(With apologies to the tiger joke).
Permalink Sangamon 
March 17th, 2017 1:30pm
I thought it was a bear joke, but let it go.
Permalink SaveTheHubble 
March 20th, 2017 5:19pm

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