I keep hearing about this Amazon thing. Maybe some day I will try it.

Manager asking for volunters....

We gave been getting automated alerts that we need to do some maintenance to a database.  Manager seems to be irritated that nobody stepped up to the plate and sent an email to the group looking for someone to volunteer.

It is something that needs to be scheduled because it takes some time and affects operations.

Should I volunteer?  It could be a show of suppport which he might appreciate....but it could also be seen as sucking up (and set a precident so he will do more of this in the future).
Permalink Trev 
February 15th, 2017 6:40pm
Never volunteer unless you know you can fix the problem shortly. And in that case, stretch it out a long time, while you surf the net etc.
Permalink Pegular Roaster 
February 15th, 2017 6:44pm
So in this case, you'll volunteer, but since it's a very complicated task, he'll have to let you not do your regular tasks, and work in a private office for the next six months.
Permalink Pegular Roaster 
February 15th, 2017 6:45pm
During the 6 months leverage the fact no one else volunteered by casting that into an understanding that no one but you had the elite skills needed to perform this necessary task.
Permalink Pegular Roaster 
February 15th, 2017 6:46pm
Actually it is a mind numbing task, following instructions that are documented
Permalink Trev 
February 15th, 2017 6:48pm
If instructions are not followed exactly, things can get fucked up
Permalink Trev 
February 15th, 2017 6:50pm
Can you do it during business hours or you have to stay late?

If you have to do it during non-business hours, ask for comp time off.
Permalink FSK 
February 15th, 2017 6:55pm
Also, the manager seems like a wimp.  He should just pick someone.  That's what being the boss means.
Permalink FSK 
February 15th, 2017 6:56pm
Good question FSK.  I assumed it would be during business hours but it may not be since it affects operations.  He didn't say
Permalink Trev 
February 15th, 2017 7:00pm
And yes I don't know why he didn't just pick someone.  I don't like the volunteer stuff.
Permalink Trev 
February 15th, 2017 7:01pm
Welcome back, dot.
Permalink Just Me 
February 15th, 2017 10:51pm
I am dot, you got me.  So any advice?
Permalink Trev 
February 15th, 2017 11:58pm
LOL. Well picked, Just Me
Permalink , Cup 
February 16th, 2017 2:35am
If no-one volunteers then boss will have to grow a pair, take a decision and wear the outcome. I'd give him the opportunity to grow into his job by awaiting his direction.

If DB maint is important (and it is) it should be scheduled on a rotating roster so everybody can learn to do it blindfolded - especially the boss so he can sign off on the result.

If they get a clue that you aren't working 100% already then you soon will be by appearing eager for more.
Permalink trollop 
February 16th, 2017 8:49am
> If no-one volunteers then boss will have to grow a pair, take a decision and wear the outcome. I'd give him the opportunity to grow into his job by awaiting his direction.

No one has volunteered, yet, at least by replying to all, but a couple co-workers were out of the office.

> If DB maint is important (and it is) it should be scheduled on a rotating roster so everybody can learn to do it blindfolded - especially the boss so he can sign off on the result.

I was going to reply and volunteer and suggest that it be done on a day and time when everyone is there so anyone who wants to learn can learn.  Some bosses are sensitive to that type of thing (employees giving suggestions - at least in front of others) so fuck it.  That is what he should have done....setup a date/time when everyone is there and THEN solicit volunteers.  If it's an off hours thing, I'm not interested unless there's more pay involved.  He's the one who got promoted and making more money and now looking to dump most of his old work on others.

> If they get a clue that you aren't working 100% already then you soon will be by appearing eager for more.

I think you might be onto something.  His boss (the director) often asks us to do stuff, which I think undermines him, but that's another topic entirely.  The director started to send out these e-mails a few weeks ago.  Sometimes the director would solicit me directly (send the e-mail to me and e-mail the group).  At other times, he would e-mail the group and ask for "someone" to take care of a task or look into an issue.  He was driving me nuts with these requests when I was trying to get stuff done.  Now my immediate boss is following suit. 

I made the mistake of volunteering and getting this stuff done without too long of a delay when big boss was sending these e-mails so maybe that led to them thinking I wasn't busy enough even though I have plenty to do as it is (training new people on top of projects and day to day stuff). 

I guess in addition to training the new employees that I also need to be training the new bosses.  Does that sound right?
Permalink Trev 
February 16th, 2017 9:31am
Managing a client's expectations is a big part of any job.

Guess who your clients are here shouldn't be too hard.
Permalink trollop 
February 16th, 2017 9:42am
We have a couple of young whippersnappers I am trying to stay ahead of.  Don't want them to think they can replace me with someone cheaper. :)  But at the same time want to avoid being the pack mule.
Permalink Trev 
February 16th, 2017 9:44am
"If they get a clue that you aren't working 100% already then you soon will be by appearing eager for more."

Yeah, volunteering for extra work never means you are showing initiative. It means you are admitting that you've been slacking so far and have a lot of free time.

The only way you can volunteer for new work, as I already said above, is by presenting it as a negotiation in which you say you can do it, but it's hard and you need to be relieved of your present duties. Or they can hire some new guys, and you'll be the manager and direct them to do both your old and new jobs.
Permalink Pegular Roaster 
February 16th, 2017 10:45am
Can someone volunteer to give me a good face-fucking?
Permalink Legion 
February 19th, 2017 7:15pm

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